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A tetrahedron, each face marked with three symbols, one at each edge. The three edges adjacent to any face share a common symbol.

The four distinct symbols: I3 Φ e π

Date: 2004-07-31 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] its-just-me.livejournal.com
I'm offically confused

Date: 2004-07-31 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herooftheage.livejournal.com
So what is the problem? There's 12 edges, the symbols come in pairs, so two have to get repeated, but not matching other symbols on the face. Here's an easy solution: label the 4 vertices 1-4.

Triangle:

123 eøI
134 Ieπ
124 eIπ
234 øeI

giving 4 e, 4 I, 2 ø and 2π for this solution. The rest is just taking a 4 sided die and some contact paper. Pick whichever of the six combinations you like here.

Or did I just miss the joke?

You just might have

Date: 2004-07-31 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] learnedax.livejournal.com
It's not a logistical challenge, although that is not in fact a valid layout. There are three of each, and labeling them by vertex instead of edge, although it works out to the same thing, is not the way I described it. (It's also harder to read because you have to squish the characters into a smaller space.)

The actual problem is in manufacturing, because I'd like it to be nicer looking, and not ridiculously expensive.

Re: You just might have

Date: 2004-07-31 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herooftheage.livejournal.com
Now I am confused, on two points.

1) I thought I was labeling edges. When I said 123 is eøI, I meant edge 12 is e, edge 23 is ø, and edge 31 is I.

2) How can you have 3 of each symbol? Anytime 1 triangle has a symbol on an edge, the corresponding other triangle will have the symbol too - that means each symbol must appear an even number of times, yes?

Yes, I missed that you wanted a cheap but nice version.

Re: You just might have

Date: 2004-07-31 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] learnedax.livejournal.com
1) I'm sorry, I misread your labeling. That works just fine.

2) I can see where you would get that impression from what I wrote, but what I meant was that all three edges adjacent to a given face would have the same symbol, i.e. so that they unambiguously define a value for that face. This does correspond to a typical d4 layout.

3) It's not so much a joke as a thing that amused me.

Re: You just might have

Date: 2004-07-31 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herooftheage.livejournal.com
Ah,dawn breaks over Marblehead. You just want a 4 sided die with some different symbols on them - and yes, those symbols would be amusing on a die.

Re: You just might have

Date: 2004-07-31 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] its-just-me.livejournal.com
I'm more confused than ever. This must be one of those things that requires an ejumacation or sumfin. I'll go back to flippin' burgers.

Re: You just might have

Date: 2004-07-31 06:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laurion
They're mathematical representations, particularly useful in advanced maths. You must be familiar with pi at least.

Date: 2004-07-31 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londo.livejournal.com
It's a shame it's not a d5 with e, pi, i, 1, 0. We could call it a dEuler.

Date: 2004-07-31 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qedrakmar.livejournal.com
http://www.koplowgames.com/ looks like a good start. They seem to do some custom dice. Might only cost you a few bucks. They also sell blank d4's which you could dremel out yourself. ;)

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